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Tuesday, April 2, 2013

Quick Poll Thrown Down

Vote. Incest in the next release, yay or nay?

I'll remake the mausoleum this week, and depending on what you vote, I'll either remake the bandit lord into a girl and remove the incest or just keep things as they are. We'll see. I'm going to hold off on extra writing until this is resolved, though.

41 comments:

  1. Isn't it actually incest if you have sex with both halves of a pair of twins at the same time?

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  2. Wincest is good. Twincest is best.
    It's not like you're the one doing the incest in this case anyway, right?

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  3. could be that one of the 'hero's' is actually your sister.

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  4. Well, like I said, I feel that once you've gotten into the whole "mindslavery and strictly speaking rape" territory you'd already have stepped over minor fetishes like wincest and put them under your belt, so I'd be VERY surprised to see the squick option win this vote.

    I suppose one way in which you could theoretically keep the game friendly both to the crowd that I foresee playing it and the theoretical/paradoxical "vanilla" fan of mindslavery and murder but not incest is by making the incest content optional.

    In the end you've got to do what you think will best benefit your intentions for this game, but I went ahead and voted in accordance with my own personal approval of the fetish.

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  5. There is a reason why the internet calls incest, WINcest good sir.

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  6. Man, I suspect I am one of 5 people so far who has done the poll who has a sister, because incest is pretty much the only line I will never find acceptable.

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    1. This isn't about your sister. This is about a game that already has mind slavery.

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    2. Fantasy incest isn't really about wanting to have sex with your actual family. It's about wanting to see attractive people have sex with their family.

      I am glad to hear an alternate comment though.

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    3. Cypress_z pretty much hits it on the mark. I have four sisters, none of which I want anything to do with.

      Also, the player perspective in Overwhored is the Overmind. It's not even about attractive people having sex with their family, it's about forcing attractive people have sex with their family for your entertainment, 'cause you're an evil overlord.

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    4. It sounds to me like the argument you're making is that the Overmind says "hey, that dude and his sister are sort of hot, maybe they should have sex for my amusement." I just haven't gotten any indication that he's into guys, or voyeurism for that matter.

      Up to this point the only male characters who have survived brief encounters with the Overmind have done so by giving him what he wants and then keeping out of his way - women mostly, though taxes have been mentioned. He certainly hasn't kept any around for his viewing enjoyment.

      I wouldn't necessarily be against some homosexual options, if that's where the story goes. I'm just saying that hasn't seemed to be in keeping with what has happened up to this point.

      Anyway, obviously this is ultimately your game. I'm just putting up an argument for what seems like a largely silent minority. Maybe someone out there feels stronger about the issue than I do, but I've had to put up with what I feel to be squicky issues before to enjoy this sort of thing so I doubt it will turn many people away who are already into the mind slavery thing.

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    5. It isn't about homosexual options. I'm not including those simply because I'm not gay. I have nothing against games that do. (If you want it, make a game, because making games is awesome and I know people will love it!)

      The character wants his sister as a sex slave when he takes the city. But the more I look at it the less sense it makes for the Overmind to EVER tolerate that. A free woman serving him is possible, but with the results of the poll and the more I think about it, the less inclined I am to keep him as a guy, even if I keep the incestuous content. But that means some serious rewrites.

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    6. Why not make it a option to backstab him later either by killing him, transforming him into a woman, or by other means? Or you could make it where the bandit leader tries to backstab the Overmind later making it a quest to find him and take him down?

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    7. It only makes sense for the overmind to cooperate with the bandit leader initially because the bandit leader has something the overmind needs (a way into the city) -- and the task required is something the overmind was going to do anyways. There's no reason to put the bandit leader on the throne when you could just as easily put yourself there. The tower mistress covers it well: from the point of view of the overmind, there's simply no good reason for other men to exist.

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    8. WELL. "No reason for the Overmind to allow it"?

      Iunno man.

      Why wouldn't the Overlord just make Amezwar's sister his mindslave and then leave her to keep an eye on Amezwar while being his sex slave?

      Game's already got the Overmind leaving dudes alive if they serve him, who's to say he won't sweeten the deal from time to time?

      It's not like he'd be unable to just go in and have threesomes/MANYsomes/Overmind only time with the sister any time he felt like anyway.
      He's the boss, after all.

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    9. Wincest with 2 sisters!

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  7. Canonically:
    1. monstergirls are overmind's grandaughters (I am assuming they are grand/daughters and that his daughters are human/elf whatever and don't become monsters until mating with their father?)
    2. the monstergirls (his granddaughters) have been fucking him (willingly I might add)

    Incest is already integral to the history and plot of the main character. The question is then not if there should be incest in the game, but if the porn scenes should depict it explicitly rather then relegating it to the plot and background.

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  8. Incest *is* best, after all.

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  9. Keep the incest and turn the bandit leader into a girl anyway.

    Most people find lesbian incest to be more enjoyable/acceptable (most likely because 95% of us are male) and the incest serves as a good excuse for some lesbo action which is still something the game is lacking at this point.

    Besides another male char having sex/a love relationship with any of the girls would take away the focus the Overmind has as the "uber badass with hidden powers who gets all the girls (no exceptions :3)".

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    1. I agree turn the dude
      an let overlord in on the action lol :)

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  10. just make it optional that way everyone happy

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  11. Two things I would like to suggest

    1. As Dantus said, Lesbian incest.

    2. A sort of "third" path for the good/evil paths, where you go down one of the two normal paths, but are eventually able to betray the side you are assisting, so that (assuming #1 is done) you can take both sisters instead of just one.

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  12. I have siblings and I don't want to fuck them. But this is fantasy and I like fantasies that push the limits a bit.
    wrong + hot = even hotter
    How else can you explain the popularity of a game about a mind controlling rapist.
    Go for it.

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  13. You could put in a third path. Semi neutral, just a suggestion. Also, you are doing a great job on this game so far, and the incest shall win the poll so make it optional content that can be turned on/off at the options menu.

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  14. Yay. It's more (harmless) fun.

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  15. it's your game do as you like. But thanks to your consideration. PS: In your game the Overmind slaughters children (although funny since all wannabe heros in anime annoyingly start out at a young age and gets all the women at the end) in the village so I don't think incest would be a problem ;)

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    1. Oh, goodness no! The Overmind doesn't kill children. He kills teenagers. Killing children would be unforgivable. But hero-in-training-teens are okay.

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    2. On the real, Honest to Goodness... the whole "Murder of youths and the elderly" thing is the only part of the game that makes me a bit unhappy myself. XD

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    3. In all honesty it makes me a bit unhappy too, but without completely redoing the entire village, I'm not sure how I can rewrite it. You can simply rest assured that he'll largely just kill soldiers and monsters from now on.

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    4. He could capture males to entertain his monstergirls instead of killing them outright, I guess.

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    5. Mind controlling Tyrant, and you're worried about killing kids and teenagers?

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    6. Yupyup : o

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  16. I think annoying heros in training are ok as well. But aren't monsters not his grandchildren?

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  17. Cypress_z,

    I think that you should change the Bandit Leader into a Futanari because who else would have the balls to stand up to the Overmind? The other dudes were defeated and had a wall protecting them so they really had nothing to lose. The Bandit Leader has a small army that is more then capable of defeating the weakened Overmind but he does not know it. You should also add the incest since incest is only really a problem when pregnancy is involved and then the problem becomes 25% (parent/child) chance of birth defect but since the Overmind’s children are already going to be Monster girl’s any adverse effects normally associated with incest would only strengthen the Monster girl child. Therefore, the Overmind should be actively seeking out his children, as they will produce the strongest army possible. Unless you add Skree into the mix then she is who the Overmind should breed with since with Vampirism she is stronger then the Overmind right now but as she is only one it will take a long time to get an army out of her.

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    1. Uh, where does it say birth defects strengthen monstergirls?

      Skree's not really a vampire, and she's not really stronger than the Overmind.

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    2. Are you serious? You have played the chapel part right? Did you see how powerful those Monster girls were and this was after month’s maybe years of being brain fucked. Therefore, the birth defects that are normally mental and often minor will have little effect on the Monster girl's abilities to fight. Since it has been proven from the three starting slaves and that bimbo Mage that the Overmined only needs a body with a heartbeat to command in order make it stronger.

      Regardless if Skree is a vampire or not she has Vampirism that steals HP from her enemies making them weaker and her stronger that being said all she will have to do is slowly chip away at the Overmind until he runs out of SP and it is all over. Because really now the Overmind’s hits are weaker then Skree's on average. Forget the Overmind will never fight alone blah, blah. Right now if he did fight Skree, alone he would be owned it is that simple.

      Whether you agree with incest or not makes no difference since this is not real, it is a game and within the context of this story, incest makes the most sense since the objective right now is to build up an army to take over the world. You cannot do that if your blinded by petty morals i.e. not killing children okay wait until they get older, stronger and band together that's smart or the elderly who have years of wisdom they could pass down to the younger generation again making them stronger and again delaying your domination of the world. Two ways to fix this is with the ability to seduce males, and the elderly. Then all you will have to do is adopt and train the children to be soldiers in the Overmind’s army. That is why Alexander the Great’s attempt to take over the world was the most successful because he adopted the troops, generals, and often leaders of the armies he defeated into his empire.

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    3. I won't comment on anything else in this, but I will say you get kudos for bringing up Alexander the Great, my good sir or madam or ancient spirit from beyond the veil with an internet connection.

      And that goes for all of you. Positive mentions of Alexander get Kudos and praise.

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    4. @Anon: The Overmind does fight Skree one-on-one. He wins. Main strength isn't the only relevant ability. Penis is the best superpower.

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    5. The Overmind never fights alone. In fact, he begins the game with three meat shields. Nevertheless, I have played the battle alone. The wolves you can count out since their hits are very weak even with the double attack they really do not do allot of damage. The vampirism hits for 130 to 180. You can only heal 20 to 30 at a time. Your attacks vs. Skree are nulled or she evades and when you do hit its no higher then 1 to 5.

      The Overmind starts with 544 hp so five hits with Vampirism and its over. It takes awhile for the computer to use five Vampirism’s on the Overmind you have to kill the two wolves then have your slaves defend the rest of the fight and hope that Skree does not kill them off before the Overmind.

      That being said if two players one controlling the Overmind with the three slaves and one controlling Skree alone were to battle the player controlling Skree would win, as they would simply use Vampirism vs. the Overmind the entire time.

      In addition, you know Skree is just a bat so maybe the Overmind could capture more bats and animals then use The Orb of Dominion on them. With the monster girls, animals, and the undead, the Overmind should have a strong enough army to take out the remaining heroes.

      I will not counter your last as I do not want to offend the males just to put that comment in its place but I would advice you to be careful with those sexist “Penis is the best superpower” comments someone you care about might read them and get the wrong idea about you. And just to enlighten you the Overmind’s children was pulled away from him by a woman. Just saying.

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    6. I knew I had a few female fans of the game, but I always enjoy seeing comments by them.

      Which reminds me. I should make a post soon to see what I can do to appeal more to female fans.

      For those of you that scoff: simply realize that mind control is one of the few fetishes that has a sizable female online presence. And if I can make a game both naughty boys AND girls can enjoy, I will.

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    7. "In addition, you know Skree is just a bat so maybe the Overmind could capture more bats and animals then use The Orb of Dominion on them."

      Thing is, if Skree wasn't affected by the orb, she'd just be an ordinary bat.
      You can't really say Skree's stronger than the Overmind when:
      1.) He's severely weakened due to having been DEAD.
      2.) Skree's power pretty much was due to the orb.

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  18. What is your point? As the game stands now Skree is stronger then the Overmind period. The Overmind has been dead, without the orb blah, blah your male is weaker then a female deal with it. The Overmind is man enough to use females in his army for sex, and muscle but the Overmind is not man enough to admit when a female is stronger then he is, please.

    Cypress_z,

    I know that you have at least five female fans the reason being is the strong story and for me I like the character Skree. I like how she was able to use the power of the Orb to build her empire even though her little bat mind would not allow her to see how small and weak the empire was. Ha-ha.

    Your right about the mind control being a good female fetish. Another thing we like is when a group of women brings down a cocky male. Oh and give some thought about making the Overmind a Futanari that would be so awesome as he/she will be able to dominate both men and women in all sexual positions. And would give you a good ending if he/she has been defeated allowing them to turn the tables on him/her sexually. Ha-ha.

    Maybe you could give Skree a bigger part in the story like an abandoned keep where she controls not wolves but different bats in various stages of transformation and/or perhaps you can make her a futanari instead of the Overmind to show how the Overmind would handle a futanari.

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